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24 Aug 2022 01:24:27
L.A - B. Clarke

Mon- J. Struble
J. Mysac
E. Dadanov (2.5 retained)
J. Ylonen

Habs add a top flight right shot defenceman

Kings deal from a position of strength to get a good left d prospect and solidify there wing depth where they are weak.

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19 Aug 2022 04:27:32
Christian Dvorak to colarado for Samuel girard.

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19 Aug 2022 05:35:34
This trade makes sense for both teams, Montreal has centre depth now, but need a puck moving defenseman to make end too end rushes, bolster the power play and can play both sides, he may not be as big as Weber but he is quicker. They also got salfovsky and caufield that can play high in the slot for what they are lacking from Weber. They both got rockets for shots. And there shots are only going to get harder and faster. Now colarado lost kadri, and Dvorak is alittle younger but can player the rugged game kadri played, I think he belongs back out west, he doesn’t fit in the style of game that Montreal is creating with there we call rebuild, but they are making trades that are making the team competitive and rebuilding at the same time. Sam pullock did that for years. The only reason why Montreal is being put down to finish in the bottom is because they are being based on last year, they would never have finished last if it hadn’t been for injuries, terrible head coach, a general manager that was only thinking about leaving Montreal for a sun shine state, what a trader to his own province, he ruined the team, I never seen a team be competitive one year and flop the next, it was like clock work all the years he was there they made the playoffs pretty much every other year.

23 Aug 2022 00:21:08
Let us move on from Bergevin! He did many good things however he gave out bad contracts! Hockey is a business and should be treated as such . Mr. Hughes will treat it as such!

13 Aug 2022 15:45:57
VGK - Chayka, cond 3rd round pick (turns to 2024 2nd if VGK makes the playoffs)
MTL - Jake Allen

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15 Aug 2022 11:35:51
No trade involving Jake Allen at this time as he is the HABS best goaltender at the moment!

19 Aug 2022 04:23:27
I would say price is out until the trade deadline. So Allen isn’t going anywhere. Picking up Sean Monaghan was an amazing trade. I would say they are under estimating the team Montreal has. That trade shows they are rebuilding but yet showing Montreal is making a slight leap to push for a bottom playoff spot. The trades they have been making are priceless. If they had just one more depth defenseman the team they have could make the playoffs. It’s sounds ridiculous but last year they were plagued by injuries. A terrible coach, and the general manager did some terrible moves to try and compete again. Then again he allowed danualt to walk, knowing he would be following him in Los Angeles. I would say if price is back around deadline Allen is being traded either for picks or a piece that would fill a hole that is needed if they are in playoff contention and price is back. Price is only being put on the ltir so they have extra salary. Tampa did it with kucherov. I would say they aren't going to do much more with this team at the moment. The only trade I could see is Montreal trading Dvorak for a defensman. Like I would like to see Samuel girard in a Montreal uniform. They have the coach, probably one of the most liked coaches in the league by the players. He will probably turn Monaghan’s game Around as he did Caufield.

19 Aug 2022 05:54:48
Might I add, a coaches relationship with the players is very important, a kid coming into the nhl, I believe from experience is almost like having a Second father or a role model to look up to, you trust in them for advice and guidance to make you better, give you confidence, a lot of super stars, are superstars because of the coaching they got from the beginning to the end. If Montreal hadn’t of fired that meat head of a coach they hired, cole caulfields game may never have turned around, and his career may have ended up in the minors. Darrell sutter is a good coach, but he’s a terrible coach on players, I would say Sean Monaghan’s game changed because of sutter. A coach can’t use favouritism over there players, I bet at Louis bring Monahan back to where he was 3 or 4 years ago, he’s only 27 years old. Bet Vinny works with dach and gives him the advice of what he did wrong with his career, instead of what he did right.

19 Aug 2022 06:13:48
Oh and at the deadline if in a playoff spot trading for a veteran presence, preferably that plays centre, I mean it would bump evans out of the line up, but the centre position quarterbacks the team. Amd a veteran presence is for the players to look up to guide them with there past experience. This sounds absurd but if they could fit johnathan toews in, there could be a Cinderella team in the making, St. Louis did it, so anything is possible.

09 Aug 2022 06:31:44
3 team trade

EDM-JETS-MTL

JETS
Anderson
Pulijarvi

MTL
Toninato
3rd-2024(jets)
3rd-2024(Oilers)
EDM
Savard
4th-2025(jets)
Harkins

Wheeler-Scheifele-Ehlers
Pulijarvi-Dubois-Connor
Anderson-Lowry-Perfetti
Appleton-Barron-Gustaffson

Nurse-Savard
Barrie-ceci
Kulak-Bouchard

Caufield-suzuki-Drouin
Gallagher-Dach-slakovsky
Hoffman-Dvorak-Dadonov
Armia-Pitlick-Byron or Evans

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09 Aug 2022 23:47:44
Anderson and Savard for two 3rds in 2 yrs. How does that help Montreal? Is this just to dump salary? Great deal for Winnipeg though.

04 Aug 2022 17:08:17
3 Team Trade - EDM / WPG / MTL


EDM; Dach, Savard

WPG; Puljujärvi, Dvorak, 2023 2nd (MTL)

MTL; Dubois, Barrie

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19 Aug 2022 05:12:34
I don’t see savard going anywhere, I don’t see drouin, what I see is the new managment is trying to bring back French Canadian players to play where they rightfully belong. The Montreal Canadiens built dynasty’s by funding money through there junior teams. They bought the Quebec aces just so they owned the rights to Jean beliveau. The league screwed over the Montreal Canadiens by taking there right to having first dibs on French Canadian hockey players. What would have Montreal looked like if Gilbert Perrault, marcel Dionne, Mario Lemieux, and so many more had been playing in Montreal. Oh can’t forget Raymond bourque or mike bossy. Montreal would have continued winning cups all threw the 80s Probably right into the mid to late 90s. I believe the Stanley cups was given as a piece offering from England to Quebec by lord Stanley of commerce, hockey started in Montreal and Quebec.

28 Jul 2022 20:37:28
EDM / MTL
(ARZ & CHI included for cap help)

EDM;
Savard (ARZ retains $1M)
Anderson (CHI retains $1.5M)

MTL;
Puljujärvi
Barrie

ARZ;
Samorukov

CHI;
Savoie
2024 5th (EDM)


** To help make the cap work

EDM;
2024 3rd round pick (NJD)

NJD;
Foegele

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27 Jul 2022 12:01:10
When a trade was announced at the draft I thought Habs had pulled off a miracle and got the 4th pick. Would this be enough now?

Seattle gives up Wright.
Habs give up Dach,Ylonen,Norlinder and Florida's first.

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23 Jul 2022 21:40:04
Montreal trades:
Josh Anderson @5.5M UFA 2027

Calgary trades:
Sean Monahan @6.375M UFA 2023
Matthew Philips @750k RFA 2022 or Jack Beck @750k RFA 2022
2023 1st round pick

Montreal eats the last year of Monahan's contract and receives a 2023 first round pick + their choice of 2 prospects in the mold of Habs coach Martin St Louis.

Calgary gets a big power forward with speed who brings even more grit, physicality and toughness to the top 6 than was lost with the departure of Tkachuk. He'll score some goals too maybe a lot of them if he's on a line with Huberdeau and Lindholm.

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24 Jul 2022 20:24:48
Anderson for a 1st and a bad contract that puts Habs over cap. Not going to happen. It will take way more then that.

22 Jul 2022 08:07:50
3 Way Trade Proposal

To Edmonton Oilers :
RW - Brendan Gallagher (6.50 @ 5 UFA)

To Winnipeg Jets :
RW - Jesse Puljuarvi (RFA)
C - Christian Dvorak (4.45 @ 3 UFA)
2023 - 1ST (FLA)

Montreal Canadiens :
C - Pierre-Luc Dubois (RFA)


Dubois, 24 (60Pts in 81GP)
Puljujarvi, 24 (36Pts in 65GP)
Dvorak, 26 (33Pts in 56GP)
Gallagher, 30 (24Pts in 56GP)



L Draisaitl - C McDavid - E Kane
Z Hyman - R Nugent-Hopkins - B Gallagher
W Foegele - R McLeod - K Yamamoto
M Janmark - D Ryan - D Shore

K Connor - M Scheifele - B Wheeler
N Ehlers - C Dvorak - C Perfetti
J Harkins - M Barron - J Puljujarvi
D Toninato - A Lowry - M Appleton

J Slafkovsky - N Suzuki - C Caufield
J Drouin - P Dubois - J Anderson
M Hoffman - K Dach - E Dadonov
R Pitlick - J Evans - J Armia

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23 Jul 2022 04:38:36
There won’t be any three way trade, amd winnipegs asking price from Montreal may have went abit. He signed 1 year for 6 million which makes it easier for Montreal to work him in the cap, and there will have to be atleast one roster player plus another roster player Montreal has to dump salary either dadonov or Hoffman, but dadonov makes more sense cause he only has one year left. Plus a first round pick, plus a decent prospect. Maybe another low draft pick. But there will be a conditional 1 round pick thrown in when he signs eight contract extension. He only want to play for Montreal. Now look at what Florida gave up for tzechuk. It’s going to be where Winnipeg starts out at a similar asking price. But keep in mind dubois if he is traded to Montreal isn’t going to be signing for more than 8 million, I wouldn’t be surprised if he signed wi th Montreal for 6.5 million. He’s going to be making huge endorsements playing in Montreal. As long as Caufield Suzuki amd salfovsky isn’t in the trade who cares what they give up. Look at it this way. You could have 2 good roster players if he signed for that, instead of having one Mathew’s or one mcdavid. Toronto will never win they pay Mathew’s marner and Taveres almost have of there salary cap. Here’s an easy way to look at it. You could have Dubois and huberadeau walk from Calgary next season for less money than than paying mcdavid. Mcdavid put up 123 but those two combined for had 175 points. This is just an example. Two players like that playing on the same team could put up over 200 points combined.

02 Aug 2022 20:10:46
Poor trade for the Jets.

22 Jul 2022 05:38:12
Dvorak, dadonov, Montreal 2023 first round pick top ten protected. Substitute floridas first round pick if Montreal pick is in the top ten.
And EMIL HEINEMAN to
Winnipeg for Pierre luc dubois.
Now if Dubois signs max 8 year contract they get Montreals 2025 first round pic and Montreal gets winnipegs 2025 third round pic.
I would say if dubois signs it will be between 7 and 8 million a year.

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22 Jul 2022 06:28:34
Buyout Paul Byron’s contract.

22 Jul 2022 08:21:10
Or they wait 2 yrs and get him for nothing! Way way way too much. Habs don't need him now anyway. He has a couple yrs to prove what he is worth long term.

23 Jul 2022 02:11:34
Habs do need him now, afew weeks ago I thought the same, but they aren't in on a long term rebuild they are ready to go all in now they have an amazing prospect pool, they need to shed salary cap Dubois is an upgrade from Dvorak, if dvorak was so great then way did they finish last place. Montreal got Florida first round pick for Ben chariot which they never gave anything up for. Dvorak cost them Carolinas first round pick and a 2024 second round pick. They got Emil in the toffallio trade. Dadonov was in in trade that got rid of webers contract and giving up a 2025 pick is probably only going at best a later first round pick. They would be giving up absolutely nothing on paper to get a centre they have been missing for years. A power forward that is French that is 6 foot 3 200 + pounds. Montreals dysntys was based on big centres fast wingers amd having a roster that had that along with denfensive and offensive style defence man and a goalie that could control the game when it was tight, Ken Dryden and Roy are good examples. In 1993 youth helped win the cup with along with Roy’s amazing goaltending, John leclaire, Gilbert Dionne, Matthieu schiender are good examples of youth, bringing in Kirk muller brian bellows, Vincent dampousse, are good example of veteran leadership they brought in. Montreal has been lacking a French Canadian centre man for almost 30years. The salary cap has ruined Canadian hockey teams. Why wouldn’t you want to pay the price for a guy that wants to wear the ch on his shirt that will probably sign a contract that isn’t insane to play for his home town team. Montreal won championships not just because they had a good team they won because the players wearing the CH wore it proud. They wanted to win. Geoff molson want to win Jeff gorton wants to win the trade I proposed isn’t very much to give up for Dubois. I would think he would be the best person to be Montreals next captain.

23 Jul 2022 22:04:13
They are not trying to win now. That would be ludicrous. The d is barely NHL caibre. Lots of good prospects but they are a couple yrs away. Two years to see if Dach is top six Center. If not he drops to 3rd and we go after Dubois then.

26 Jul 2022 20:35:51
Unless the Habs offer a top line center or better players for PLD they won't get him from the Jets. The Jets would be better off trading him to NYR, Tampa, Florida or the Kings for a much better return. Once he plays for any of these teams he'll forget about playing in Montreal.

 


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